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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-74500</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting exchange.  Todd, you&#039;re right on.</description>
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		<title>By: Sha</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-57388</link>
		<dc:creator>Sha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last thing . . . I read in one of the threads earlier of someone comparing the Destiny Fund to the S&amp;P 500 Index fund? Are you serious? How can you compare these two? Apples and Oranges . . . The S&amp;P 500, by its name, lists 500 stocks on the stock market.  Probability would tell you that out of 500 stocks, some are going to to do better than one stock, some worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last thing . . . I read in one of the threads earlier of someone comparing the Destiny Fund to the S&#038;P 500 Index fund? Are you serious? How can you compare these two? Apples and Oranges . . . The S&#038;P 500, by its name, lists 500 stocks on the stock market.  Probability would tell you that out of 500 stocks, some are going to to do better than one stock, some worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Sha</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-57387</link>
		<dc:creator>Sha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, I&#039;m totally with you.  I just recently separated from Active Duty.  When I was at FAOBC at Fort Sill, I was in contact with a First Command Agent there; ex-Marine Corps Captain.  As a 2LT, I wasn&#039;t making that much money.  We talked and I told him I wanted to invest about 300 dollars a month to start because I was only making 800 after taxes every two weeks.  He came back with a plan for about 700 dollars a month and I declined his offer.  He totally did not follow what I wanted and I didn&#039;t do it.

I got stationed in Germany and my Motor SGT told me to talk to his Agent a year later and I hesitated to do so because of my prior experience but went anyway.  We talked and I told him I wanted to put in 500 a month and no savings account because I already had a savings account.  I stressed that point heavily.  He came back with exactly what I wanted . . . How could I say no? By this time, I tried to save money on my own but as a yound 2LT in Germany, I was just out spending my money on partying and having fun and had nothing to show for it.  

I took the 15 year investment plan because if you did the math, it made sense for long time investors.  I don&#039;t pay any more sales charges on my investments.  I have a plan and I&#039;m sticking with it . . . I have money in the bank, I have my investments and I&#039;m happy with how my finances are stacking up.  

In every company, you have bad apples.  You can&#039;t judge a company by one story you hear from someone who wasn&#039;t happy with their plan.  

As for the people who talk about the no-load funds and how good they are, the 12b-1 fee in a no-load fund is a great deal higher than the ones on the front end load or back end load plans.  A 12b-1 fee is an asset based fee, meaning a percentage of how much you have in the fund.  These funds are not meant for long term investors.  

Like Todd said earlier, people are complaining about the fees that First Command charges.  All brokers charge fees to buy mutual funds of your choice . . .Go online right now and find a single online broker that doesn&#039;t charge a fee . . . If someone makes some money helping me out, I have no problem with that.  That&#039;s how they make their living.  For all those people who talk about &quot;I can do it myself&quot;, you have to deal with a broker, no matter what.  You can&#039;t just call Google or GE and tell them you want to buy their stocks.  

Am I saying First Command is for everyone, of course not.  No company or product is for every person.  But for military personnel, especially the one&#039;s stationed overseas, First Command is worth giving a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, I&#8217;m totally with you.  I just recently separated from Active Duty.  When I was at FAOBC at Fort Sill, I was in contact with a First Command Agent there; ex-Marine Corps Captain.  As a 2LT, I wasn&#8217;t making that much money.  We talked and I told him I wanted to invest about 300 dollars a month to start because I was only making 800 after taxes every two weeks.  He came back with a plan for about 700 dollars a month and I declined his offer.  He totally did not follow what I wanted and I didn&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>I got stationed in Germany and my Motor SGT told me to talk to his Agent a year later and I hesitated to do so because of my prior experience but went anyway.  We talked and I told him I wanted to put in 500 a month and no savings account because I already had a savings account.  I stressed that point heavily.  He came back with exactly what I wanted . . . How could I say no? By this time, I tried to save money on my own but as a yound 2LT in Germany, I was just out spending my money on partying and having fun and had nothing to show for it.  </p>
<p>I took the 15 year investment plan because if you did the math, it made sense for long time investors.  I don&#8217;t pay any more sales charges on my investments.  I have a plan and I&#8217;m sticking with it . . . I have money in the bank, I have my investments and I&#8217;m happy with how my finances are stacking up.  </p>
<p>In every company, you have bad apples.  You can&#8217;t judge a company by one story you hear from someone who wasn&#8217;t happy with their plan.  </p>
<p>As for the people who talk about the no-load funds and how good they are, the 12b-1 fee in a no-load fund is a great deal higher than the ones on the front end load or back end load plans.  A 12b-1 fee is an asset based fee, meaning a percentage of how much you have in the fund.  These funds are not meant for long term investors.  </p>
<p>Like Todd said earlier, people are complaining about the fees that First Command charges.  All brokers charge fees to buy mutual funds of your choice . . .Go online right now and find a single online broker that doesn&#8217;t charge a fee . . . If someone makes some money helping me out, I have no problem with that.  That&#8217;s how they make their living.  For all those people who talk about &#8220;I can do it myself&#8221;, you have to deal with a broker, no matter what.  You can&#8217;t just call Google or GE and tell them you want to buy their stocks.  </p>
<p>Am I saying First Command is for everyone, of course not.  No company or product is for every person.  But for military personnel, especially the one&#8217;s stationed overseas, First Command is worth giving a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-44426</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be on the side that I like both companies, USAA for insurance, and First command for higher returns on investments.  And you can get no-load funds through first command, fidelity and others have no-load funds which you can buy through first command and have much better historical return rates and USAA funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be on the side that I like both companies, USAA for insurance, and First command for higher returns on investments.  And you can get no-load funds through first command, fidelity and others have no-load funds which you can buy through first command and have much better historical return rates and USAA funds.</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-21241</link>
		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 00:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grading First Command.

Here is my grade...First Command sucks.</description>
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<p>Here is my grade&#8230;First Command sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Quest For Financial Peace</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-16698</link>
		<dc:creator>The Quest For Financial Peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Grading First Command&lt;/strong&gt;
Well, after doing some internet research today, I discovered that my current financial &quot;advisor&quot; (used loosely) with First Command is not exactly helping me. Let&#039;s take a closer look: Money Market Account interest rate - 2.04%, national average - 2....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Grading First Command</strong><br />
Well, after doing some internet research today, I discovered that my current financial &#8220;advisor&#8221; (used loosely) with First Command is not exactly helping me. Let&#8217;s take a closer look: Money Market Account interest rate &#8211; 2.04%, national average &#8211; 2&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://uruloki.net/lair/2004/07/20/first-command/comment-page-2/#comment-9203</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!-- spamk    : Comment text: &#039;You know, if everyone did what they knew they were supposed to do, when they were supposed to do it, there wouldn&#039;t be personal trainers, drill sergeants or E.O. NCO&#039;s to name a few.  But people are typically not proactive, even when they know what they need to do.

Take for example living healthy.  There is hardly a soul on this planet that doesn&#039;t know smoking is bad for you, eating fast food often not good for the heart, and frequent exercise is a MUST.  But given this common and accepted knowledge, why are people getting fatter and fast food joints make more money than GNC and smoking is a billion dollar industry?

The truth is that it is more than knowing what to do, it is having someone be proactive in getting it done.  Shit, it would be great not having to run through my barracks getting my soldiers up for PT.  Bottom line, most people are inherently lazy.

Everyone keeps saying, &quot;You can do it yourself.&quot;  Well great, then do it.  But you know, most aren&#039;t either proactive enough or take the time to do it.  After all, if people were, First Command wouldn&#039;t have a market because everyone was already doing their own investing.  We also wouldn&#039;t need social security, welfare, or the TSP.  Simply because FC exists, tells me they are working a market that either is doing nothing or very little for retirement preparation.

In fact, this whole arguement can be boiled down to professional vs. do it yourself.  There are arguements for either approach, but taking the &#039;I can do it myself so can you&#039; approach is very broad advice and irresponsible.  No matter what you are talking about.  Whether it is doing your own brake work or fixing the furnace.  This is because everyone has different priorities, experience levels and knowledge.  What is easy for you could be very difficult for someone else.

Finally, everyone says I am a First Command agent.  In fact &#039;Guilty&#039; is very convinced of it it seems.  I guess believing in a product or a company makes you a member of them from this web page&#039;s outlook.  If that is the case, I guess I will go back to work at my KFC restaurant and resume brewing my Guiness.  Since I like and believe in those products, I suppose that means I work there too.

Keep it real.

Todd

P.S.  Sorry about the delay in my post, been in the field for the last few weeks.&#039; matched .com --&gt;
You know, if everyone did what they knew they were supposed to do, when they were supposed to do it, there wouldn&#039;t be personal trainers, drill sergeants or E.O. NCO&#039;s to name a few.  But people are typically not proactive, even when they know what they need to do.

Take for example living healthy.  There is hardly a soul on this planet that doesn&#039;t know smoking is bad for you, eating fast food often not good for the heart, and frequent exercise is a MUST.  But given this common and accepted knowledge, why are people getting fatter and fast food joints make more money than GNC and smoking is a billion dollar industry?

The truth is that it is more than knowing what to do, it is having someone be proactive in getting it done.  Shit, it would be great not having to run through my barracks getting my soldiers up for PT.  Bottom line, most people are inherently lazy.

Everyone keeps saying, &quot;You can do it yourself.&quot;  Well great, then do it.  But you know, most aren&#039;t either proactive enough or take the time to do it.  After all, if people were, First Command wouldn&#039;t have a market because everyone was already doing their own investing.  We also wouldn&#039;t need social security, welfare, or the TSP.  Simply because FC exists, tells me they are working a market that either is doing nothing or very little for retirement preparation.

In fact, this whole arguement can be boiled down to professional vs. do it yourself.  There are arguements for either approach, but taking the &#039;I can do it myself so can you&#039; approach is very broad advice and irresponsible.  No matter what you are talking about.  Whether it is doing your own brake work or fixing the furnace.  This is because everyone has different priorities, experience levels and knowledge.  What is easy for you could be very difficult for someone else.

Finally, everyone says I am a First Command agent.  In fact &#039;Guilty&#039; is very convinced of it it seems.  I guess believing in a product or a company makes you a member of them from this web page&#039;s outlook.  If that is the case, I guess I will go back to work at my KFC restaurant and resume brewing my Guiness.  Since I like and believe in those products, I suppose that means I work there too.

Keep it real.

Todd

P.S.  Sorry about the delay in my post, been in the field for the last few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>< !&#8212;spamk    : Comment text: &#8216;You know, if everyone did what they knew they were supposed to do, when they were supposed to do it, there wouldn&#8217;t be personal trainers, drill sergeants or E.O. NCO&#8217;s to name a few.  But people are typically not proactive, even when they know what they need to do.</p>
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<p>Take for example living healthy.  There is hardly a soul on this planet that doesn&#8217;t know smoking is bad for you, eating fast food often not good for the heart, and frequent exercise is a MUST.  But given this common and accepted knowledge, why are people getting fatter and fast food joints make more money than GNC and smoking is a billion dollar industry?</p>
<p>The truth is that it is more than knowing what to do, it is having someone be proactive in getting it done.  Shit, it would be great not having to run through my barracks getting my soldiers up for PT.  Bottom line, most people are inherently lazy.</p>
<p>Everyone keeps saying, &#8220;You can do it yourself.&#8221;  Well great, then do it.  But you know, most aren&#8217;t either proactive enough or take the time to do it.  After all, if people were, First Command wouldn&#8217;t have a market because everyone was already doing their own investing.  We also wouldn&#8217;t need social security, welfare, or the TSP.  Simply because FC exists, tells me they are working a market that either is doing nothing or very little for retirement preparation.</p>
<p>In fact, this whole arguement can be boiled down to professional vs. do it yourself.  There are arguements for either approach, but taking the &#8216;I can do it myself so can you&#8217; approach is very broad advice and irresponsible.  No matter what you are talking about.  Whether it is doing your own brake work or fixing the furnace.  This is because everyone has different priorities, experience levels and knowledge.  What is easy for you could be very difficult for someone else.</p>
<p>Finally, everyone says I am a First Command agent.  In fact &#8216;Guilty&#8217; is very convinced of it it seems.  I guess believing in a product or a company makes you a member of them from this web page&#8217;s outlook.  If that is the case, I guess I will go back to work at my KFC restaurant and resume brewing my Guiness.  Since I like and believe in those products, I suppose that means I work there too.</p>
<p>Keep it real.</p>
<p>Todd</p>
<p>P.S.  Sorry about the delay in my post, been in the field for the last few weeks.&#8217; matched .com&#8212;><br />
You know, if everyone did what they knew they were supposed to do, when they were supposed to do it, there wouldn&#8217;t be personal trainers, drill sergeants or E.O. NCO&#8217;s to name a few.  But people are typically not proactive, even when they know what they need to do.</p>
<p>Take for example living healthy.  There is hardly a soul on this planet that doesn&#8217;t know smoking is bad for you, eating fast food often not good for the heart, and frequent exercise is a MUST.  But given this common and accepted knowledge, why are people getting fatter and fast food joints make more money than GNC and smoking is a billion dollar industry?</p>
<p>The truth is that it is more than knowing what to do, it is having someone be proactive in getting it done.  Shit, it would be great not having to run through my barracks getting my soldiers up for PT.  Bottom line, most people are inherently lazy.</p>
<p>Everyone keeps saying, &#8220;You can do it yourself.&#8221;  Well great, then do it.  But you know, most aren&#8217;t either proactive enough or take the time to do it.  After all, if people were, First Command wouldn&#8217;t have a market because everyone was already doing their own investing.  We also wouldn&#8217;t need social security, welfare, or the TSP.  Simply because FC exists, tells me they are working a market that either is doing nothing or very little for retirement preparation.</p>
<p>In fact, this whole arguement can be boiled down to professional vs. do it yourself.  There are arguements for either approach, but taking the &#8216;I can do it myself so can you&#8217; approach is very broad advice and irresponsible.  No matter what you are talking about.  Whether it is doing your own brake work or fixing the furnace.  This is because everyone has different priorities, experience levels and knowledge.  What is easy for you could be very difficult for someone else.</p>
<p>Finally, everyone says I am a First Command agent.  In fact &#8216;Guilty&#8217; is very convinced of it it seems.  I guess believing in a product or a company makes you a member of them from this web page&#8217;s outlook.  If that is the case, I guess I will go back to work at my KFC restaurant and resume brewing my Guiness.  Since I like and believe in those products, I suppose that means I work there too.</p>
<p>Keep it real.</p>
<p>Todd</p>
<p>P.S.  Sorry about the delay in my post, been in the field for the last few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: guilty!</title>
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		<dc:creator>guilty!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 13:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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Guys, I WAS a first command agent.  I quit after having a very successfull but short career there.

the post above stinks of a lame ass first commad agent in disguise trying to defend his company and pride.  Fuck him.

After some time now, I have come to the conclusion that first command is very limited in scope, intellectual capitol, tact and honesty.  They are getting better, however slowly.  They cant hurt people with systematic mutual funds any more, but they will try twice as hard to stick it to you with insurance.  (that is the ONLY way that they can make money off you now since the payout on a fully funded ira to the broker in A shares is about $18 a month to the broker dealer and about 80% of that as pay out.  
JUST MAX YOUR TSP, GET A ROTH AND CALL NMAA FOR SOME SUPPLIMENTAL INSURANCE.</description>
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Guys, I WAS a first command agent.  I quit after having a very successfull but short career there.</p>
<p>the post above stinks of a lame ass first commad agent in disguise trying to defend his company and pride.  Fuck him.</p>
<p>After some time now, I have come to the conclusion that first command is very limited in scope, intellectual capitol, tact and honesty.  They are getting better, however slowly.  They cant hurt people with systematic mutual funds any more, but they will try twice as hard to stick it to you with insurance.  (that is the ONLY way that they can make money off you now since the payout on a fully funded ira to the broker in A shares is about $18 a month to the broker dealer and about 80% of that as pay out.  <br />
JUST MAX YOUR TSP, GET A ROTH AND CALL NMAA FOR SOME SUPPLIMENTAL INSURANCE.</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 14:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there are some FC agents who are fine, honest people who pursue the client&#039;s best interests. Problem is they work for a terrible company.  Please recall that FC is the company that:

- developed and trained its agents to use the &quot;first year loads deter speculators&quot; sales pitch
- referred in agent training materials to those who favor term insurance over whole life as &quot;termites&quot;--and remember that since FC markets exclusively to the military these &quot;termites&quot; are people in uniform
- hired a bunch of retired generals, admirals, and senior non-comms to sit on a sham &quot;board of advisors&quot; that is reality was nothing more another technique to gain the trust of clients
- endorsed the actions of district James Provo in harassing a USAF officer who spoke out against FC--Lamar Smith himself stated in a letter to senior USAF officials that FC could make things very &quot;expensive&quot; for the officer who spoke out against First Command
- used contacts with the highest ranking officers in the Air Force to shut off an investigation started by lower ranking legal officers who in fact were doing the right thing by investigating allegations against FC
- hatched a phony expanding-into-the-civilian-market cover story as a way to deflect criticism about targetting only the military


In general FC agents try to pass themselves as patriotic Americans who are out to help you achieve your financial goals--in reality they are just more investment/insurance salesmen out to make a buck.  They aren&#039;t any different from the rest of the pack, but unfortunately for FC the backlash they are now suffering has been made worse by all their previous flag waving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there are some FC agents who are fine, honest people who pursue the client&#8217;s best interests. Problem is they work for a terrible company.  Please recall that FC is the company that:<br />
 &#8211; developed and trained its agents to use the &#8220;first year loads deter speculators&#8221; sales pitch &#8211; referred in agent training materials to those who favor term insurance over whole life as &#8220;termites&#8221;&#8212;and remember that since FC markets exclusively to the military these &#8220;termites&#8221; are people in uniform &#8211; hired a bunch of retired generals, admirals, and senior non-comms to sit on a sham &#8220;board of advisors&#8221; that is reality was nothing more another technique to gain the trust of clients &#8211; endorsed the actions of district James Provo in harassing a USAF officer who spoke out against FC&#8212;Lamar Smith himself stated in a letter to senior USAF officials that FC could make things very &#8220;expensive&#8221; for the officer who spoke out against First Command &#8211; used contacts with the highest ranking officers in the Air Force to shut off an investigation started by lower ranking legal officers who in fact were doing the right thing by investigating allegations against FC &#8211; hatched a phony expanding-into-the-civilian-market cover story as a way to deflect criticism about targetting only the military</p>
<p>In general FC agents try to pass themselves as patriotic Americans who are out to help you achieve your financial goals&#8212;in reality they are just more investment/insurance salesmen out to make a buck.  They aren&#8217;t any different from the rest of the pack, but unfortunately for FC the backlash they are now suffering has been made worse by all their previous flag waving.</p>
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		<title>By: SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 06:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!-- spamk    : Comment text: &#039;You both make some good points.  I am a FC customer myself, and have had my doubts about their products recently.  I was in the same boat as Todd in that I had no clue about finances.  An FC rep provided me with a means to begin saving for my, and my family&#039;s, future.  I invested in the Dest II N fund and purchased whole life through my agent.  In retrospect (and after many years of learning) I think that I could have done better, especially with the current state of the Dest II N funds.  

To say, however, that FC is anything but honest is not completely true.  My agent was up front about all the charges that I would incure and was never hesitant to answer any questions I had.  He actually said that I needed to begin a TSP account to diversify, and actually provided me with insight as to what percentage and which funds to allocate money to so that they would compliment my Dest II N funds.  I have every condidence that my agent was providing me with honest, faithful and informed decisions.  I am appalled by individuals that say they deserve to have their money returned because they made, in their mind, a poor financial decision.  They signed the paperwork that showed they would be giving up 50% of their first year&#039;s contributions...but I digress.

Were I to do it all over again, I would probably do more research and would not end up with FC.  There are, as you have pointed out, many available funds that require no loads, minimal origination fees and a small amount of &quot;up front cash&quot;.  I am going to keep my FC accounts and continue with the investing strategy as I believe, in the long run, that the Dest II N fund will bounce back.  

I just wanted to add my input to this forum to give others an opinion that rides the middle of the road.  I am certain that their are some FC agents out there that are in it for the money and will do anything to turn a buck (lie, cheat and steal), but those 10% are indicitive of any agency that you would otherwise go to.  I have had nothing but good experiences with my agents, and all have been very forthcoming and concerned with my financial decisions.

In conclusion I would say that FC should not be allowed to brief units as a condoned command activity.  Commanders should provide financial guidance to their troops in the form of educational doctrine and let the troops decide where to put their money.  

Semper Fi
SF&#039; matched .com --&gt;
You both make some good points.  I am a FC customer myself, and have had my doubts about their products recently.  I was in the same boat as Todd in that I had no clue about finances.  An FC rep provided me with a means to begin saving for my, and my family&#039;s, future.  I invested in the Dest II N fund and purchased whole life through my agent.  In retrospect (and after many years of learning) I think that I could have done better, especially with the current state of the Dest II N funds.  

To say, however, that FC is anything but honest is not completely true.  My agent was up front about all the charges that I would incure and was never hesitant to answer any questions I had.  He actually said that I needed to begin a TSP account to diversify, and actually provided me with insight as to what percentage and which funds to allocate money to so that they would compliment my Dest II N funds.  I have every condidence that my agent was providing me with honest, faithful and informed decisions.  I am appalled by individuals that say they deserve to have their money returned because they made, in their mind, a poor financial decision.  They signed the paperwork that showed they would be giving up 50% of their first year&#039;s contributions...but I digress.

Were I to do it all over again, I would probably do more research and would not end up with FC.  There are, as you have pointed out, many available funds that require no loads, minimal origination fees and a small amount of &quot;up front cash&quot;.  I am going to keep my FC accounts and continue with the investing strategy as I believe, in the long run, that the Dest II N fund will bounce back.  

I just wanted to add my input to this forum to give others an opinion that rides the middle of the road.  I am certain that their are some FC agents out there that are in it for the money and will do anything to turn a buck (lie, cheat and steal), but those 10% are indicitive of any agency that you would otherwise go to.  I have had nothing but good experiences with my agents, and all have been very forthcoming and concerned with my financial decisions.

In conclusion I would say that FC should not be allowed to brief units as a condoned command activity.  Commanders should provide financial guidance to their troops in the form of educational doctrine and let the troops decide where to put their money.  

Semper Fi
SF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>< !&#8212;spamk    : Comment text: &#8216;You both make some good points.  I am a FC customer myself, and have had my doubts about their products recently.  I was in the same boat as Todd in that I had no clue about finances.  An FC rep provided me with a means to begin saving for my, and my family&#8217;s, future.  I invested in the Dest II N fund and purchased whole life through my agent.  In retrospect (and after many years of learning) I think that I could have done better, especially with the current state of the Dest II N funds.  </p>
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<p>To say, however, that FC is anything but honest is not completely true.  My agent was up front about all the charges that I would incure and was never hesitant to answer any questions I had.  He actually said that I needed to begin a TSP account to diversify, and actually provided me with insight as to what percentage and which funds to allocate money to so that they would compliment my Dest II N funds.  I have every condidence that my agent was providing me with honest, faithful and informed decisions.  I am appalled by individuals that say they deserve to have their money returned because they made, in their mind, a poor financial decision.  They signed the paperwork that showed they would be giving up 50% of their first year&#8217;s contributions&#8230;but I digress.</p>
<p>Were I to do it all over again, I would probably do more research and would not end up with FC.  There are, as you have pointed out, many available funds that require no loads, minimal origination fees and a small amount of &#8220;up front cash&#8221;.  I am going to keep my FC accounts and continue with the investing strategy as I believe, in the long run, that the Dest II N fund will bounce back.  </p>
<p>I just wanted to add my input to this forum to give others an opinion that rides the middle of the road.  I am certain that their are some FC agents out there that are in it for the money and will do anything to turn a buck (lie, cheat and steal), but those 10% are indicitive of any agency that you would otherwise go to.  I have had nothing but good experiences with my agents, and all have been very forthcoming and concerned with my financial decisions.</p>
<p>In conclusion I would say that FC should not be allowed to brief units as a condoned command activity.  Commanders should provide financial guidance to their troops in the form of educational doctrine and let the troops decide where to put their money.  </p>
<p>Semper Fi<br />
SF&#8217; matched .com&#8212;><br />
You both make some good points.  I am a FC customer myself, and have had my doubts about their products recently.  I was in the same boat as Todd in that I had no clue about finances.  An FC rep provided me with a means to begin saving for my, and my family&#8217;s, future.  I invested in the Dest II N fund and purchased whole life through my agent.  In retrospect (and after many years of learning) I think that I could have done better, especially with the current state of the Dest II N funds.  </p>
<p>To say, however, that FC is anything but honest is not completely true.  My agent was up front about all the charges that I would incure and was never hesitant to answer any questions I had.  He actually said that I needed to begin a TSP account to diversify, and actually provided me with insight as to what percentage and which funds to allocate money to so that they would compliment my Dest II N funds.  I have every condidence that my agent was providing me with honest, faithful and informed decisions.  I am appalled by individuals that say they deserve to have their money returned because they made, in their mind, a poor financial decision.  They signed the paperwork that showed they would be giving up 50% of their first year&#8217;s contributions&#8230;but I digress.</p>
<p>Were I to do it all over again, I would probably do more research and would not end up with FC.  There are, as you have pointed out, many available funds that require no loads, minimal origination fees and a small amount of &#8220;up front cash&#8221;.  I am going to keep my FC accounts and continue with the investing strategy as I believe, in the long run, that the Dest II N fund will bounce back.  </p>
<p>I just wanted to add my input to this forum to give others an opinion that rides the middle of the road.  I am certain that their are some FC agents out there that are in it for the money and will do anything to turn a buck (lie, cheat and steal), but those 10% are indicitive of any agency that you would otherwise go to.  I have had nothing but good experiences with my agents, and all have been very forthcoming and concerned with my financial decisions.</p>
<p>In conclusion I would say that FC should not be allowed to brief units as a condoned command activity.  Commanders should provide financial guidance to their troops in the form of educational doctrine and let the troops decide where to put their money.  </p>
<p>Semper Fi<br />
SF</p>
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